In this “Fancy That – Conversations that change our world” – Mike Picard in the conversation with Bashir Fancy discusses how Organizations are breached and how easy it is to do it. We discussed how much easier it has become since the COVID19 lock down. Some of the discussions addressed Corporations react to security incidents rather than plan and prepare which Organized crime certainly does. Skills gaps were also discussed as were silos and the internal component which makes attacking corporations a lot easier.